Ghana must go: first part

I wonder if you are having the same feeling. I had actually no idea what the book was about, but the title, the cover, somehow made me think that this was going to be a story of hope, progress, maybe adventure. And up to now, I was wrong. Ghana must go has so far presented some family stories, migration, but mostly loneliness and melancholy. So I'm disappointed, cause I wasn't expecting a drama, but at the same time, it is very well written, so well it hurts at times. I still have about two thirds to finish, so the story, maybe hasn't actually started, and it turns out to be what I was expecting, but this is a hard beginning.
There are two things that catch my attention, the relationship of the characters with their houses/ homes (the story with the carpenter and the tree), and the family relationships, so close and so remote. Thoughts?

The Custom of the Country: final chapters (31 to 46)

Does Undine after all that manipulation, live to a happy ending? I don't think so. If we can extract some conclusions here, I would say, enjoy the day! She is constantly wanting what she doesn't have and as soon as she gets it, ooopsss, something new on sight!

Did you like the end?

Chapters 21 − 30, "The Custom of the Country", by Edith Wharton

How are you enjoying the book so far? Does Undine's level of ambition and self-centrism still have the capacity to surprise you? What do you think about how the whole divorce and Mr. Van Degen story ended up? Did you feel sorry for Undine…? And what/who else do you think Undine will try to manipulate next to pursue what she thinks is of her right?

The book is certainly full of surprises...

Chapters 11-20, "The Custom of the Country", by Edith Wharton

Undine's ambition, bad taste, and selfishness seem to be growing as we advance in the book and her life. 

In these chapters, the marriage takes place and the marriage ends. Does it happen too fast, too slow, or do you find it has the perfect pace?

We get to know Undine as a wife and mother, and we see how these "circumstances" don't seem to change much her aspirations and rhythm of life.  

Although the book is a constant critic of the American society it portraits, at one point in these chapters the author provides a direct and explicit analysis of the man-woman relationship and "the customs of the country" through the character of Mr. Bowen. Do you agree with his vision? Do you think it belongs to the old times or do you see something of it in nowadays society? What about his perception of the European marriage?

Looking forward to keep reading your thoughts!

First part: "The Custom of the Country", by Edith Wharton

Is it me, or this Undine girl we have actually met somewhere? It is amazing how real the characters are! What do you think of her? She is capable of manipulating her own parents, but once out in society she is copying every other "high society" lady... Will she grow and become a more mature person by the end of the book? To me, this smells tragedy!

What about the descriptions of society? Have we made so much progress? New York versus South?

I was surprised to see that the story moved fast, we get the romance and the wedding, and there is a lot of pages still to go! This is no Jane Austen (not I critic, I love Austen) but this is going much farther, reviewing maybe "the customs of the country"...

We are now reading "The Custom of the Country" by Edith Wharton

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In Cold Blood, third & fourth chapters

Life got busy and I have been postponing too long the wrap up post of our last book together. That, despite the fact that I had finished it some time ago. Not as soon as Mr. J, but long before the suggested schedule times. Once I started, I found it difficult to put it down. 

So, without further ado (and excuses), how did you like the book? 

By now I guess you have already read the interesting, exhaustive, and thought-provoking analysis of Jorge, to which I have very few (or nothing) to add in terms of wrapping up the story. 

I have liked very much the book despite the uncomfortable feeling it left in me every time I closed it and thought about the story, the characters, the fatal coincidences… The third chapter was so far the hardest to read. The confession of Perry with the details of the crimes, the description of the Clutter's fear, their suffering, the absurdity of it all...

In brief, there are two things I kept thinking about while reading and after reading the book:

First, when considering Perry's life and how bad it had treated him, his personality issues and instabilities were somehow "understandable". The bad feelings, resentments, hates.. At times, I felt deeply sorry for him. Having said that, her only alive sister is there to show how you can choose a different way of facing very harsh circumstances. 

However, with Dick is different. He had a normal, nice family, who loved him and took care of him. Does that mean he is intrinsically bad? Was he born with a mean, cruel nature that would show in any case? It seems Perry and Dick are two perfect examples to illustrate the Nature or Nurture? eternal question.

Second, and despite what I said above regarding my own suffering when reading about the Clutter's suffering, and the disgust about the crime and murderers, I still can't believe in the death penalty… That is a too complex and long debate to start here and now, but it is certainly an issue the book brings up. 

What a wonderful book. 

Maybe in the future we can explore more of Capote with Breakfast at Tiffany's?  

Macarena

In Cold Blood, second chapter

In the second chapter the crime has already happened and Capote presents us the community trying to live through it, describing how the drama has affected the families in Holcomb.

We are introduced to Dewey and his desperate need to solve the crime. Also, we get to know the whereabouts of Dick and Perry after the murders, as well as some of Perry's past and life story.

For me (Macarena), too many questions are raised here. 

Why does Capote present so much information about Perry? How do you see the character? How do you feel about the crime and the criminals as the story advances? Can you think at this point of a motive for the murders?

In Cold Blood (with spoilers), by J

Hi Cookies,

It seems that I have been the first one to finish the book this time!I have pretty much enjoyed the book, although I will probably never again pick someone on the road or leave a door not locked in the night.

I have been hooked since the beginning as the book is very well written and interesting (being a real case makes it even more addictive). Even if we know how it ends, you continue reading, willing to widen your view of this case, maybe trying to understand why.

I think that Capote has made an amazing book by drawing a straight timeline and somehow sticking to it throughout the story.

The introduction of the characters is clear, clean, you can almost feel that you have met the nice and friendly Clutter family and that they are your friends just by the everday life the author describes of their last 24 hours. The life of this nice people,we do not know why, is crossed, erased, by these two guys that are also starting to be described in our story. But we also learn about an specific time, society, customs in the midwest of the USA.

Then it happens, even if we do not have the details, it terribly happens and we knew it was going to happen... We have to wait for the details, and that is the morbidness that make us continue hooked with the book...

And then we travel with Perry and Hickock from the US to Mexico, from that fatidic date November 14th 1959, to their childhood, their fears, their families, their problems. We can feel sometimes sorrow for them, quite often we are disgusted by their behaviour, but always we can feel that, after all, they are derailed human beings, each of them with his particularities.

Then we read about this KBI agent Dewey, how he works, how he manages his anguish, how he investigates and does accusse some people before going to nowhere. How he reads and rereads the diary, uses the information available, gets frustrated... And how he with his team finally find them in Las Vegas.

Then comes one of the most incredible parts of the book: the confession, and the details too. I find this part of the story amazing, how they start to have the same allibi and how easily the police make Perry confess everything in the car. How can a human being confess such crime like he did? Without remorse, as someone that is talking about a football match... I find it unbelievably scary...

But the book is far from finished, we learn then about the trial, how they are well treated while in prison, the witnesses testimonies, their psicological profiles. We even feel that they might escape their fate and be declared not guilty because of who knows what kind of legal trick.

And then, as in the rest of the book, everything continues as it was expected: they are condemned to the death penalty, and we can see how they are going to share the death row with other incredibly sinister characters, that have killed plenty of innocent people (even his family in the case of Lowell Andrews), apparently without remorse, in cold blood. They come from very different backgrounds, educated, lonely, from rich or poor families.... No stereotypes can be applied to all of them. I think this is the crudest, most astonishing part of the book; the description of all these murders carried out by those people that, some of them, could be your neighbor or your classmate.

And then Hickock decides to fight back, to write letters, to have a revision of the trial, and time passes by, and again, when we start to think about that they might be going to be lucky, about the  possibility of, one day, finding these guys out there in the street... But the story continues as it is, no surprises, six years after their crime, they are hanged. But again it is incredibly easy, apparently normal, almost an everyday activity, how they behave just minutes before and how they die.

I find that this book is an amazingly clear radiography of psicology profiles, of small groups interaction, of society, of legal system, of the enforcement of law. But above all it is the harshest book I have read about death, how extremely easy is to kill or to die, how close anybody can be to his killers without even knowing it, how instantly the life of a person or a even family can be wiped out without a real reason or just because a misunderstanding or incorrect information (there was no safe in the Clutters' place!).

This book is very good, sometimes it has description that I find too baroque, but in general it greatly written. It's a pity that we have not many more books from you Mr. Capote.

In Cold Blood, first chapter

Hello readers! How is Capote going? For those reading about vampires, please note that there was a mixing among titles, but we are reading Truman Capote, maybe vampires for the next one...

So, for all that I know, I'm the one really behind this time, as I'm not reading THE BOOK.

And why is that? I mean, shame on me, but, I have some sort of excuse, I read "In Cold Blood" a few years ago... so I felt that I would read something else in the meanwhile... and I'm reading a bizarre African novel, difficult to read even in my native in Spanish...

So I would ask for your help in leading this conversation, I don't have all the details in my memory, so what should be discussing here? Take the lead!